This was posted on the supposed Calvinist subreddit. We’ll see how long it lasts.. reddit.com/r/Calvinism..in answer to an image of God saying “How dare you do what I already predetermined you to to?” and another that said “God: I am Love” Me: Didn’t you create people just to go to Hell?” followed by God: a picture of a black actor profusely sweating..
God: Ezekiel 16:6,7 And when I passed by thee, and saw thee polluted in thine own blood, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live; yea, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live. 16:7 I have caused thee to multiply as the bud of the field, and thou hast increased and waxen great, and thou art come to excellent ornaments: thy breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou wast naked and bare.
Now imagine for a moment a free willers version of all speech: 1. there is supposed to be really only one speech in total reality that is pronounced and spelled differently a bunch of ways and it certainly doesn’t/can’t become flesh. 2. it is supposed to be a will-neutral, non-interfering-with-the-will medium of exchange that that the hearer or reader is supposed to empower via a so-called “free will”.
So God just walking by and saying “Live” to someone wallowing in their own blood would be just a not-so-subtle form of mockery. Thus the fake, non-creating laughter of free willers on that point. Because, in freewillerville/natural man, all possible speech can’t do what it says, it takes a free will to empower it.
Another freewiller/anti-Christ version of that same language argument: If God told me to do something and I didn’t have the power to do it and yet He blamed me for not having done it that wouldn’t be fair. God is fair so we have free will. Notice the argument seems to compliment God and as such supposedly work an emotional positive in the mind of Christian who knows God and God’s voice and knows we don’t have free will and thus seems to be impossible to refute without taking away a so-called compliment from God. ( which is a standard tactic of Satan ..give God fake praise while blaspheming God and pretend that to refute the blasphemy is another type of blasphemy..) Except..
God IS His Word. He doesn’t ‘use language’. He is the Speech He Speaks. He is Creating Speech and Created all that exists by Speaking it into existence. He clearly expects His Own power to effect what He says in those He has given ears to hear Him. So that in fact , in the above Spirit and Life from Ezekiel, God is commanding the one laying there in their own blood to Live and that command creates obedience in the one to whom He spoke, as revealed by the next verse ..not only did they live, but were prospering Because God Spoke To Them.
So..God told the one laying there in their own blood to do something and yet the one laying there in their own blood ( who may very well have had a notion such as “invincibility of their own unbelief in God” or “God would never thwart my own choices or interfere with my “free will”..” ) had no power to do it and God’s Word in them did it on their behalf. Anyway. Without their permission or understanding of God’s power. They just ..woke up feeling better.
To wit: Eze16:7 I have caused thee to multiply as the bud of the field, and thou hast increased and waxen great, and thou art come to excellent ornaments: thy breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou wast naked and bare.
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Job 23:14 For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me: and many such things are with him.
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Philippian 2:13 for it is God who works in you both the willing and the working according to his good pleasure.
You know the funny part for free willers: they really haven’t noticed their own speech can create nothing because it seems to them that is a universal of all languages, so why notice something that you can’t do anything about? That’s “free will” proof so to speak.
For instance, If I was to say in human speech “let there be a stack of Benjamins 6 ft high next to me” I know and you know that it just isn’t going to happen. If I say “Let there be a stack of U.S. One hundred dollar bills next to me” it doesn’t make any difference. No matter how I put it, no matter how exact or general I am about it, my speech simply can’t bring that into existence just by speaking it.
It’s the speech –not me–that is the problem and free willers are deceived by the experience of living in a non-creating speech that they are deceived is the only speech there is to keep the lie of free will alive one more day ..because of that problem with the speech.
So: God speaks and expects His Word to be done in those given ears to hear Him because of His Own power–not theirs. Good thing for all sinners or we couldn’t be born again from non-creating speech into Creating Speech/God Himself. We can’t get out of human speech on our own. But that is exactly what happens in the new birth when God speaks to us. That is irresistible grace taking us out of Total Depravity and Persevering us.
1Peter 1:23 being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the living and abiding word of God.Jame 1:18 According to his own will begat he us by the word of truth, that we should be a certain first-fruits of *his* creatures.
It will be funny to see if this comment stays up on a so-called Calvinist reddit and isn’t removed for not having enough “charisma” or “karma”. Reddit in particular and up-or-downvote message bards in general ( Reddit, Stack Exchange, etc..) exists to put a one-sided narrative of anything and any other point so view is downvoted or not allowed at all ( on reddit that becomes “you don’t have enough community Charisma or karma to post what you said”..literally ) or simply removed to make it appear the lies by the liars have never been refuted. But you have already read it and its too late for you. You can’t un-know it. ‘Cause, you know, you don’t have free will. You never did.
Isa 41:21-24 Produce your cause, saith Jehovah; bring forward your arguments, saith the King of Jacob. 41:22 Let them bring them forward, and declare to us what shall happen: shew the former things, what they are, that we may give attention to them, and know the end of them; –or let us hear things to come: 41:23 declare the things that are to happen hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods; yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be astonished, and behold it together. 41:24 Behold, ye are less than nothing, and your work is of nought; an abomination is he that “chooseth” you. …
Is God really getting on your last nerve yet? Maybe your still laying there in your own spiritual blood dreaming like a snowflake about all the powerful stuff your gonna do when you get up and then realize you are in fact dying.
Whatever. Free willers are always emotional snowflakes.
In the Name of Jesus Christ, Amen